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#1 Bapman

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Posted 26 April 2007 - 03:32 PM

Hey

Kai and all sitarplayers
sometimes when I mix
I wish for a
VST plugin ( in my case for mac)
that simulates sympatic string resonator
does anyone have a clue if there is one
that works
I think had had something similar once
but it didn't work as well as I wanted to :wacko:


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Posted 27 April 2007 - 12:41 AM

I'd think it could be possible to get there with some delays, reverbs, modulation, and creative EQing, but a dedicated VST would have been great. Never came across one unfortunately.

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Posted 27 April 2007 - 05:35 AM

I'd think it could be possible to get there with some delays, reverbs, modulation, and creative EQing, but a dedicated VST would have been great. Never came across one unfortunately.



Well i found a coupple but only for older OS
or just win

http://www.pspaudiow...tart/piano.html
http://www.kvraudio.com/get/2542.html


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Posted 01 May 2007 - 10:45 PM

Is this something where you want the sympathetic vibrations to have the same timbre and characteristics of the input instrument? Or, would they have their own sound?

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Posted 01 May 2007 - 11:07 PM

Is this something where you want the sympathetic vibrations to have the same timbre and characteristics of the input instrument? Or, would they have their own sound?


You offering to make something? :whistling: If you made it into a pedal (battery powered) especially, I'd buy it!

I personally wouldn't mind the symps having their own sound - the strings on Indian instruments tend to sound quite different from the main playing strings. You could have a range of preset sound types, maybe with limited editability, so they'd be in the ballpark of the input instrument.

Nah, I'm not picky or demanding...
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Posted 02 May 2007 - 07:03 AM

I've been playing with this idea for some years.

Not as a pedal, but as a physical instrument.

Like a set of sympathetic strings, feed in to a transducer which sets up the vibrations and feed out via a standard pickup.

So a bit like a sustainer, but not using feedback, using another instrument.

Sets of dampers controlling which strings are in operation.

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Posted 02 May 2007 - 08:18 AM

Is this something where you want the sympathetic vibrations to have the same timbre and characteristics of the input instrument? Or, would they have their own sound?



hey
Pref the same
but as kai said
the symp strings usually
have a different sound.



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Posted 03 May 2007 - 09:03 AM

I hadn't thought about it in hardware. Could be fun. I actually need to think about this.

I was thinking that it might be doable using Plogue Bidule, especially if different sounds for the sympathetics were OK.

Jah, the physical setup would be really cool. Kinda like a reverb tank and loop in an amp?

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Posted 03 May 2007 - 09:42 AM

I hadn't thought about it in hardware. Could be fun. I actually need to think about this.

Jah, the physical setup would be really cool. Kinda like a reverb tank and loop in an amp?

Yep, I got the idea after buying a piano some years back (which I no longer have).

A piano alters the whole sound of a room and house as the strings resonate with all the other everyday sounds, at one time nearly every home had one. Makes life so much brighter, and then you can play it too!

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Posted 03 May 2007 - 01:08 PM

I was thinking that it might be doable using Plogue Bidule, especially if different sounds for the sympathetics were OK.
Rob



Please try
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Posted 03 May 2007 - 01:10 PM

I've been playing with this idea for some years.

Not as a pedal, but as a physical instrument.

Like a set of sympathetic strings, feed in to a transducer which sets up the vibrations and feed out via a standard pickup.

So a bit like a sustainer, but not using feedback, using another instrument.

Sets of dampers controlling which strings are in operation.

Jah



please keep us updated on the progress
sound like a brill idea



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Posted 03 May 2007 - 01:55 PM

I've been playing with this idea for some years.

Not as a pedal, but as a physical instrument.

Like a set of sympathetic strings, feed in to a transducer which sets up the vibrations and feed out via a standard pickup.

So a bit like a sustainer, but not using feedback, using another instrument.

Sets of dampers controlling which strings are in operation.

Jah


Why not use a sustainer ?
(doesn't work ? )




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Posted 03 May 2007 - 03:01 PM

I've been playing with this idea for some years.

Not as a pedal, but as a physical instrument.

Like a set of sympathetic strings, feed in to a transducer which sets up the vibrations and feed out via a standard pickup.

So a bit like a sustainer, but not using feedback, using another instrument.

Sets of dampers controlling which strings are in operation.

Jah


Why not use a sustainer ?
(doesn't work ? )




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Of couse it doesn't work stupido it'll just ring for ever
:rolleyes:


Just realized
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Posted 05 May 2007 - 12:12 AM

So, how many strings? And, I guess really importantly, how deep (hertz wise) do the sympathetic strings need to be.

This could be a fun project. But, if we do it with real strings, I think batteries are going to be out of the question. I'm thinking about how to try this with all solid state too.

I could give the plugin a shot too. But, I still don't have access to my computer to program on. Hopefully I'll have it back soon.

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Posted 05 May 2007 - 12:41 AM

Most sympathetic string systems seem to use from 1 & 1/2 to 2 octaves worth, in a tunable diatonic arrangement. (Chromatic isn't usually very musical - you generally want only the notes of the scale(s) you're playing to resonate.) So, 12-13 strings? Maybe 14 or 15 at the outside.

Gunnar - how are yours tuned?
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