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#1 jahloon

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Posted 30 May 2004 - 10:55 AM

Up until last week Rysard Latecki's LATAR was the only semi-fretless guitar we had seen, and Rysard holds the patent for that idea. Then along comes the Fretless Super Buzzmaster that pre-dates it by five years, see History. Are there any more semi-fretless out there?
Play the blues guitar with your soul, but play the fretless guitar with your spirit.
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#2 Michael ATONAL Vick

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Posted 30 May 2004 - 04:06 PM

Yeah, Jimmy Kimsey's BuzzMaster is sick. He can sure get some beautiful sounds out of that rustic looking guitar..................& The Latar is in a class by itself too.
Check out Trey Gunn's Fretted/FretLess on the same neck Warr Guitar from King Crimson's latest DVD "Eyes Wide Open".
Also, Debashish Bhattacharya is going in some new directions to say the least.
As I have told you Jahloon, I am working on a sick-hybrid right now. It will definitely be a challenge for ANYONE to play. I told you here. Now on to UnFretting my Baritone Ukelele, & turning it into an Electric Vukelele.....Sounds & Pictures Soooooooooooooooooooooooon!

MORE TO COME, PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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#3 Michael ATONAL Vick

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Posted 30 May 2004 - 09:59 PM

How about this one Phil deGruy Fanned Frets & all. UnFretted.com is fast becoming the site Modern Guitar of all shapes & sizes!
How about Vai's new Triple Neck Guitar top to bottom
12 String Fretted / 6 String Fretted / 6 String FretLess............Big & Sick like Vai.
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#4 Jim Kimsey

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Posted 31 May 2004 - 02:08 PM

Excellent Topic!! i must say.

I have the KC DVD, and trey's semi appears to be
a hollow body to achieve stand-up bass tones.
it sounds great.

Phil is a MOTHER, yeah! he plays a fanned fret Novak,
like Charlie Hunter - 8 string guitar wizard.
interestingly, CH's first indie rekkid: Charlie Hunter Trio,
(Mammoth Records/ Prawn Song) features a 'Double hybrid".

If you don't know, CH plays an 8 string: top 5 are the top 5 of
guitar, and the bottom 3 are the bottom of the bass...
but on this realease, the bottom 3 are fretless!!! i think it sounds
great, but he has gone all fretted since. His chops have
grown significantly since this first release. it was probably
just a case of too many variable, even for the kid w/ 2 brains.

i've seen vai play his triple neck on the newest G3 video.
as i recall, 12-srting apppears to be tuned open for
drone type strumming, and he then uses the fretless for
free sliding-glissing sustain, left hand only (semi-screaming).

always have my ears and eyes open for anybody in the fretless/
semi-fretless mode!!! more as it comes...

#5 Michael ATONAL Vick

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Posted 31 May 2004 - 02:49 PM

Yeah, I got to witness Charlie Hunter Live once, & it was great.
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#6 Jim Kimsey

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Posted 31 May 2004 - 02:49 PM

This is not a hybrid/semi, but as other "unfretted"
instruments are featured @ unfretted, what about
Appalachian Fretless banjo? A direct link back to Africa
for the only real American instrument. these instruments
are played w/ the frailing or claw-hammer style, which
pre-dates the oft irritating scruggs style (earl and others
are true masters, but the machine gun aspect wears thin
to me...)
here are a few urls:
http://members.cox.n...etlessbanjo.htm
some decent history

http://www.banjowiza...om/fretless.htm
a more classic style specimen

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Posted 31 May 2004 - 02:51 PM

Yummy!

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Posted 02 June 2004 - 07:13 AM

At the risk of repeating tired quotes / jokes:
A gentleman is a man who knows how to play the banjo, and doesn't! - Mark Twain
Fret not thyself - Proverbs 24:19

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Posted 02 June 2004 - 05:19 PM

what about
Appalachian Fretless banjo?  A direct link back to Africa
for the only real American instrument.  these instruments
are played w/ the frailing or claw-hammer style,  which
pre-dates the oft irritating scruggs style (earl and others
are true masters, but the machine gun aspect wears thin
to me...)
here are a few urls:
http://members.cox.n...etlessbanjo.htm
          some decent history

http://www.banjowiza...om/fretless.htm
          a more classic style specimen

Jim,
Thanks for the links and the history. It had puzzled me for quite some time why there were so many fretless banjo's around the early part of the last century - now I know the reason, that's only around the time when they started to aquire frets! I think the guitar always had frets, so didn't suffer the same history. --J
Play the blues guitar with your soul, but play the fretless guitar with your spirit.
Author of the book "Fretless Guitar The Definitive Guide" fretlessguitar.co.uk

#10 Michael ATONAL Vick

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Posted 03 June 2004 - 07:14 PM

I just ran across this...............FretLess Zither
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#11 Michael ATONAL Vick

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Posted 03 June 2004 - 07:16 PM

Check the Home Page too!
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#12 jahloon

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Posted 03 June 2004 - 07:20 PM

That's it. I'm off to Unfret the hoover. --J
Play the blues guitar with your soul, but play the fretless guitar with your spirit.
Author of the book "Fretless Guitar The Definitive Guide" fretlessguitar.co.uk

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Posted 21 June 2004 - 10:02 AM

How about a semi-fretless where you remove every other fret or every third fret? That might be interesting also.


just my 2 cents ;-)

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Posted 21 June 2004 - 10:15 AM

How about a semi-fretless where you remove every other fret or every third fret?

Now's your chance to try it, while you unfret that acoustic, let us know....
Play the blues guitar with your soul, but play the fretless guitar with your spirit.
Author of the book "Fretless Guitar The Definitive Guide" fretlessguitar.co.uk

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Posted 22 June 2004 - 01:21 AM

Too late! :( I am just about to put the stings back on. Can't wait to see how she plays!!!


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