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Belew and Parker guitars

#1 User is offline   Chilly Willy 

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Posted 30 April 2012 - 08:06 PM



I met Belew two years ago and told him about the DFGF. He told me it was a fantastic instrument and he would ask Ken Parker to build him one. The whole clip is really nice and at the end, min 57 he talks about the Parker Fretless Guitar.

Take the time to see the whole clip, Belew is one of a kind and one of the best in my book!
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Posted 01 May 2012 - 08:44 AM

Yes, I saw that clip once also. Too bad he doesn't use it in that clip. I think Belew isn't playing fretless very much these days or the last 10 years. Parker should bring these fretless guitars on the market. I wonder about the sustain on these graphite boards.
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Posted 01 May 2012 - 11:29 AM

View Postles fret, on 01 May 2012 - 08:44 AM, said:

Yes, I saw that clip once also. Too bad he doesn't use it in that clip. I think Belew isn't playing fretless very much these days or the last 10 years. Parker should bring these fretless guitars on the market. I wonder about the sustain on these graphite boards.


I would also like to try a Parker Fretless! I do own a Fly Parker Deluxe and I really like it.

In this clip he does play fretless guitar (Fender) Minute 37!
The whole clip is worth seeing!


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Posted 01 May 2012 - 01:40 PM

I like Belew but not on fretless , sorry Willy :)
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Posted 01 May 2012 - 01:45 PM

I like it a lot. He has a different approach then most fretless players and that I like. Too bad he is not doing much with it nowadays. Also he hasn't used it live very much I think. Never saw a live video of it. Maybe his fretless Parker is inspiring him to do some new fretless stuff in the future.
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Posted 01 May 2012 - 04:01 PM

View PostWas Bapman, on 01 May 2012 - 01:40 PM, said:

I like Belew but not on fretless , sorry Willy :)


OK Gunnar, now you're playing with your life! Posted Image

View Postles fret, on 01 May 2012 - 01:45 PM, said:

I like it a lot. He has a different approach then most fretless players and that I like. Too bad he is not doing much with it nowadays. Also he hasn't used it live very much I think. Never saw a live video of it. Maybe his fretless Parker is inspiring him to do some new fretless stuff in the future.


Totally agree. I really like it and think Gunnar is crazy! Posted Image Maybe he is Swedish? Posted Image
Actually Gunnar is a good friend and a top musician! Posted ImageBut not liking Belew fretless?


But it is taste after all. I remember he telling me when I met him he should ask Ken Parker to make him a fretless guitar so in my dreams it was my idea! Posted Image

But imagine he was doing this stuff already in 1984! He's just out of this planet! Love his music and he made King Crimson in the 80' 90' and this century one of my all time favorite bands. Fripp is just a Mad Professor and I really like his suff as well but the combination of these two killer guitarists makes it happen!
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Posted 01 May 2012 - 04:25 PM

Hey Chilly, why not convert your fretted Parker guitar to a fretless? I think with these 'glued on top' frets it might be easy, or not?
But then you have bring on some side markers.
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Posted 01 May 2012 - 04:34 PM

View Postles fret, on 01 May 2012 - 04:25 PM, said:

Hey Chilly, why not convert your fretted Parker guitar to a fretless? I think with these 'glued on top' frets it might be easy, or not?
But then you have bring on some side markers.


That would be a crime! I just love that guitar as it is and I only play fretless one month a year....... just before the Dutch Fretless Festival Posted Image

I like fretless guitar but for me it is just another tool and not my main guitar.

I do have a Vigier Excalibur sans frets and a double neck I made back in 2007 when I was still young!

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Posted 01 May 2012 - 04:40 PM

I guess Parker has come along way since 2005............

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 2:07 PM
To: sales@parkerguitars.com
Subject: Fretless Parker Guitar Question

Parker,
Hello, my name is Michael Vick (on-line as Michael
ATONAL Vick), & I recently saw an ad for your new Paker Fly Mojo Guitar.
My question is could you make one of those but not put Frets on it so it
can be played as a Fretless. I play various types of Fretless Guitars, &
the new Parker neck through Carbon neck looks like it would sustain
great without frets & have a stellar tone. Do you think this would
possible?
thanks...........................VVV


Response:

Sorry Michael - that is not possible.

John

www.parkerguitars.com

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Posted 01 May 2012 - 05:56 PM

[quote name='VVV' timestamp='1335890451' post='34758']
I guess Parker has come along way since 2005............

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 2:07 PM
To: sales@parkerguitars.com
Subject: Fretless Parker Guitar Question

Parker,
Hello, my name is Michael Vick (on-line as Michael
ATONAL Vick), & I recently saw an ad for your new Paker Fly Mojo Guitar.
My question is could you make one of those but not put Frets on it so it
can be played as a Fretless. I play various types of Fretless Guitars, &
the new Parker neck through Carbon neck looks like it would sustain
great without frets & have a stellar tone. Do you think this would
possible?
thanks...........................VVV


[size="5"]Response:

Sorry Michael - that is not possible.

John

www.parkerguitars.com[/size]
[/quote]

Mean Aholes
and i've a couple of Parkers
but I'll sell'em now

[quote name='Chilly Willy' timestamp='1335888074' post='34755']
[quote name='Was Bapman' timestamp='1335879644' post='34753']
I like Belew but not on fretless , sorry Willy :)
[/quote]

OK Gunnar, now you're playing with your life!

[quote name='les fret' timestamp='1335879918' post='34754']
I like it a lot. He has a different approach then most fretless players and that I like. Too bad he is not doing much with it nowadays. Also he hasn't used it live very much I think. Never saw a live video of it. Maybe his fretless Parker is inspiring him to do some new fretless stuff in the future.
[/quote]

Totally agree. I really like it and think Gunnar is crazy! Maybe he is Swedish?
Actually Gunnar is a good friend and a top musician! But not liking Belew fretless?


But it is taste after all. I remember he telling me when I met him he should ask Ken Parker to make him a fretless guitar so in my dreams it was my idea!

But imagine he was doing this stuff already in 1984! He's just out of this planet! Love his music and he made King Crimson in the 80' 90' and this century one of my all time favorite bands. Fripp is just a Mad Professor and I really like his suff as well but the combination of these two killer guitarists makes it happen!
[/quote]

I feel like this about most of the so called big guitarists like Metheny , Mclaughlin etc. who played / fiddled / tried fretless
they haven't embraced the fretless guitar as such and aproach it as a guitar with frets without frets :?
and I'm only part swedish , Hombre !
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Posted 01 May 2012 - 06:10 PM

View PostBapman, on 01 May 2012 - 05:56 PM, said:

I feel like this about most of the so called big guitarists like Metheny , Mclaughlin etc. who played / fiddled / tried fretless
they haven't embraced the fretless guitar as such and aproach it as a guitar with frets without frets :?


You right for Metheny and Vai (don't know what McLaughlin did on fretless). Because they only use it for a couple of songs and don't make full use of the fretless potential. But Belew has done some great things on fretless. He plays it in his own style and is not concerned so much with what other fretless guitar players do or want to hear. Just as on electric guitar he has his own voice on the instrument. In that aspect he is a big inspiration for me.
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Posted 02 May 2012 - 05:23 AM

View Postles fret, on 01 May 2012 - 06:10 PM, said:

View PostBapman, on 01 May 2012 - 05:56 PM, said:

I feel like this about most of the so called big guitarists like Metheny , Mclaughlin etc. who played / fiddled / tried fretless
they haven't embraced the fretless guitar as such and aproach it as a guitar with frets without frets :?


You right for Metheny and Vai (don't know what McLaughlin did on fretless). Because they only use it for a couple of songs and don't make full use of the fretless potential. But Belew has done some great things on fretless. He plays it in his own style and is not concerned so much with what other fretless guitar players do or want to hear. Just as on electric guitar he has his own voice on the instrument. In that aspect he is a big inspiration for me.



Hey

McLaughlin did one track on Industrial Zen - John McLaughlin (2006)


I like Belew so if you can point me to some tracks where he plays fretless in a " good" way
I'll listen , I've been wrong before :)
but so far what I've heard Belew
do on fretless is not up to par
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Posted 02 May 2012 - 12:29 PM

View PostVVV, on 01 May 2012 - 04:40 PM, said:

I guess Parker has come along way since 2005............

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 2:07 PM
To: sales@parkerguitars.com
Subject: Fretless Parker Guitar Question

Parker,
Hello, my name is Michael Vick (on-line as Michael
ATONAL Vick), & I recently saw an ad for your new Paker Fly Mojo Guitar.
My question is could you make one of those but not put Frets on it so it
can be played as a Fretless. I play various types of Fretless Guitars, &
the new Parker neck through Carbon neck looks like it would sustain
great without frets & have a stellar tone. Do you think this would
possible?
thanks...........................VVV


Response:

Sorry Michael - that is not possible.

John

www.parkerguitars.com





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Posted 02 May 2012 - 02:59 PM

It is just commercialism....Belew famous MV not. $$$ & fame always trump............
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Posted 02 May 2012 - 03:31 PM

View PostVVV, on 02 May 2012 - 02:59 PM, said:

It is just commercialism....Belew famous MV not. $ & fame always trump............


Sorry Michael alias VVV but Adrian Belew is not only a little bit famous but very, very good, creative, an innovator and not really commercial, come on! It's not like he's Top 40!!!

I would never compare myself to the level of Adrian Belew, modesty and humbleness are not YOUR strongest virtues! Posted Image
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