[gazmungus]

Sorry, no filth here (yet!)


This is worth a watch, I know Rob and for that matter, MAV will dig it - even though there's frets!

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=yeL5YNzvWek


(dumped my solo guitar arangement of that!)

[rob]

corcoran, on Nov 19 2009, 02:28 PM, said:

Sorry, no filth here (yet!)


This is worth a watch, I know Rob and for that matter, MAV will dig it - even though there's frets!

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=yeL5YNzvWek


(dumped my solo guitar arangement of that!)

Dig it I did! It's brilliant. I hadn't heard of him before. I feel like I've been missing out. I must spend much time now researching his music.

Speaking of researching people, I figure you are the man do give me direction on what to listen to for Stéphane Grappelli.

[gazmungus]

Its kinda funny really, I was reading on another more regular "this one goes up to 11!" type forum about a pointless 'best acoustic guitarists' thread and all that...

It's as if Roland Dyens doesn't exist along with a whole wall of 'classical' players:-

I won't go on, but William Kanengiser:-

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=p51Isg9VsiA

here's LAGQ - I love this, classical guitarists seem to think it's cheep and tacky!!!!

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=yflWG-e38OU


Re Stephan? dunno where to start - I wouldn't dissmiss his later stuff (Martin Taylor on guitar!) but the whole genre seems to have been taken over by the djangoists, I have most of the hot club recordings by buying those cheep box set CDs - though beware that much of those recordings will be later Django in the US for example without Stephan, not that it's bad music at all, at all...

This is nice:-

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=VhB5qAq7OkI

[rob]

My standard answer to the "best guitar player" question has been, for nearly three decades now, John Williams. I love the way he plays Rodrigo and Vivaldi if nothing else. My response is almost always answerd by a blank stare. I'm certainly open to being told I'm wrong. But, I find it amazing that almost no one even knows who I'm talking about. Now you come along and show me this Dyens guy and all I can say is "I hadn't heard of him before." We live in a time where you have to actively work to find what's good or at least have to actively put yourself into situations where you can be exposed to things that are well done. If you're passive, all you get is shit.

The LAGQ vid did have me reflexively cringing in a couple of spots. I was smiling through all the rest though. Still, it reminded me of this, http://www.youtube.c...h?v=KmBaE7ozWow

Thanks for the links about Grappelli. I've heard much of his work with Django (I'm still open to being told what I should listen to from this period). So, I'm mainly looking for other (later?) stuff. The piece with Taylor is just the kind of thing I'm looking for. Nice! Thanks for the link to "Art of the Jazz Violin" MAV. Ponty was one of my early paths into Jazz. I will definitely look into this one.

I came across this: Grappelli & Menuhin when going through the related vids. Menuhin's comment in the middle is really interesting.

corcoran, on Nov 21 2009, 07:42 AM, said:

Its kinda funny really, I was reading on another more regular "this one goes up to 11!" type forum about a pointless 'best acoustic guitarists' thread and all that...

It's as if Roland Dyens doesn't exist along with a whole wall of 'classical' players:-

I won't go on, but William Kanengiser:-

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=p51Isg9VsiA

here's LAGQ - I love this, classical guitarists seem to think it's cheep and tacky!!!!

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=yflWG-e38OU


Re Stephan? dunno where to start - I wouldn't dissmiss his later stuff (Martin Taylor on guitar!) but the whole genre seems to have been taken over by the djangoists, I have most of the hot club recordings by buying those cheep box set CDs - though beware that much of those recordings will be later Django in the US for example without Stephan, not that it's bad music at all, at all...

This is nice:-

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=VhB5qAq7OkI

[gazmungus]

My standard answer to the "best guitar player" question has been, well, I find the concept of whos best of a bit, well you know....

Usually it's the hoards of the late sixties ex teen types who've retrospectively invented a generation that invented everything (okay maybe a just a couple of peeps I know who that think like that) that seem to want to argue that Hendrix or someone was the ultimate guitar virtuoso or who was better than x....

Though I must say watching the likes of Williams, Bream, (the list goes on) the classical repetoire if nothing else requires a much higher level of clearheadedness

[rob]

corcoran, on Nov 21 2009, 03:50 PM, said:

My standard answer to the "best guitar player" question has been, well, I find the concept of whos best of a bit, well you know....

That's the best answer for sure. But, sometimes you've got to anser with something that's going to confuse them.

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Usually it's the hoards of the late sixties ex teen types who've retrospectively invented a generation that invented everything (okay maybe a just a couple of peeps I know who that think like that) that seem to want to argue that Hendrix or someone was the ultimate guitar virtuoso or who was better than x....

See? That's when you have to answer Segovia.

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Though I must say watching the likes of Williams, Bream, (the list goes on) the classical repetoire if nothing else requires a much higher level of clearheadedness

You mean that they aren't stoned when they play? REminds me of this kinda funny thing that I witnessed in an nice moderately upscale Italian restaurant once. There was a nice grand piano in the room we were in. There was a pretty drunk group haveing a great time next to us. A few of the people at the table started prodding one of the guys with them to get up and play something on the piano. He resisted for a bit and then gave in (he was pretty trashed himself). He tried a couple of time to play classical pieces and fumbled all over them. He gave up and launched into some jazz. He was pretty damn good!

[gazmungus]

rob, on Nov 21 2009, 04:48 PM, said:

See? That's when you have to answer Segovia.

I did, the next response I got was "Did Segovia play with his teeth?"




I think burning that Hauser guitar of his would've been a laugh!!!

[rob]

corcoran, on Nov 21 2009, 05:37 PM, said:

rob, on Nov 21 2009, 04:48 PM, said:

See? That's when you have to answer Segovia.

I did, the next response I got was "Did Segovia play with his teeth?"




I think burning that Hauser guitar of his would've been a laugh!!!

You should have said no, but he did play with his penis.

Maybe we can get the BBC to do a program of Orchestral Who performed by the LSO. They could end it with them all smashing their instruments to bits with a final shot of the timpanist kicking over the kettle drums.

Can you imagine the weeping of classical guitar players if there were film of Segovia burning his Hauser?

[jahloon]

Just catching up, great posts, the "Loose" cannon was worth seeing again.

Didn't the LSO do an Orchestral version of Tommy? Wonder how it ended.

Best guitarist ever? Bit like asking who's the best painter, Hitler or Churchill?

[Bent-Tonation]

What about Chet Atkins?