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#1 jahloon

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Posted 25 August 2005 - 03:34 PM

By popular request, a thread to show off guitars / amps / pedals / cars / bikes / girls / in fact anything.

If you want to post really outrageous and off topic nonsense, best use the "Complete B*****ks" section.

Anyway, here's the first fretless I bought:

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Still works, a testament to Canadian technology.

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#2 Michael ATONAL Vick

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Posted 26 August 2005 - 01:40 AM

Try Fretless Guitar Circus for guess what?????????

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Posted 26 August 2005 - 03:50 AM

OK, until I can get the Yamaha all tarted up (all liquored up first?), here's an unfinished render I did of how the new table I'm building for the studio should look in place. (No, the gear on the right isn't floating in space thanks to anti-gravity paint - just too lazy to render the stand it sits on.) Missing some bits of gear as well as the miles of spaghetti of course.

Studio porn I guess...

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Posted 26 August 2005 - 05:59 AM

My slippies:-

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I'm still trying to dream up a suitable death for the orange thing <_<

and the glass has worked out quite nicely over time on the classical - it's been out with me a few times now...

for the rest of the crap here's an old photie and gear list......

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Posted 27 August 2005 - 10:44 AM

After a five day rain delay on sanding, I'm finally defretted. I filled the slots with black dyed maple purfling from stewmac. The size is perfect. There was some chipout on the board during the defret. So, I overfilled the slots with epoxy too. Then I used a little plane to cut down the excess purfling and epoxy to manageable levels. Then I used one of the radiused sanding blocks from stewmac to do the sanding. That made the job easy.

I finished it off with special unfretted forum Almond/lemon/tea tree/Bergamot essential oil/aromatherapy mixture. Smells nice. Works perfectly.


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Posted 27 August 2005 - 11:22 AM

Very nice. I note two plug jacks. Would that be a stereo guitar then?
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Posted 27 August 2005 - 01:22 PM

Very nice. I note two plug jacks. Would that be a stereo guitar then?

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Not really stereo. The piezo can be routed through the second jack. It can be sent through the main jack if the second cord isn't plugged in. As weird as this is, it's the only thing that's left that is the way the guitar came from the factory. Oh yeah, it's got it's factory finish too.

The piezo arrangement is neat because you can amp the piezo clean and send the magnetics through the dirt.

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Posted 27 August 2005 - 03:50 PM

Very nice. I note two plug jacks. Would that be a stereo guitar then?

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Thanks.

Not really stereo. The piezo can be routed through the second jack. It can be sent through the main jack if the second cord isn't plugged in. As weird as this is, it's the only thing that's left that is the way the guitar came from the factory. Oh yeah, it's got it's factory finish too.

The piezo arrangement is neat because you can amp the piezo clean and send the magnetics through the dirt.

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Yeah that's how my Parker (as yet still fretted <_< ) is, but it combines both in one stereo jack. If you plug in a regular mono cable it sums them. But I prefer to send them to separate channels on the mixer, piezo direct, with the mags taking a longer route, through the various stomps and racks. The mags are stereo by the time they reach the mixer, so I end up taking up 3 strips for one guitar. The Yamaha shares the mag chain via an A/B switcher. When I get the Godin (with VG-88) and then the custom TimTone the guitars would have to start elbowing the synths aside... so I may have to get/construct a multi-guitar switchbox as an A/B won't suffice anymore. Even before all that I've had to draw myself a cabling diagram whenever dismantling and moving the studio.
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Posted 27 August 2005 - 05:52 PM

Very nice. I note two plug jacks. Would that be a stereo guitar then?

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Thanks.

Not really stereo. The piezo can be routed through the second jack. It can be sent through the main jack if the second cord isn't plugged in. As weird as this is, it's the only thing that's left that is the way the guitar came from the factory. Oh yeah, it's got it's factory finish too.

The piezo arrangement is neat because you can amp the piezo clean and send the magnetics through the dirt.

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Yeah that's how my Parker (as yet still fretted <_< ) is, but it combines both in one stereo jack. If you plug in a regular mono cable it sums them. But I prefer to send them to separate channels on the mixer, piezo direct, with the mags taking a longer route, through the various stomps and racks. The mags are stereo by the time they reach the mixer, so I end up taking up 3 strips for one guitar. The Yamaha shares the mag chain via an A/B switcher. When I get the Godin (with VG-88) and then the custom TimTone the guitars would have to start elbowing the synths aside... so I may have to get/construct a multi-guitar switchbox as an A/B won't suffice anymore. Even before all that I've had to draw myself a cabling diagram whenever dismantling and moving the studio.

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Is the fretboard on your Parker carbon? How would you handle the defret? It seems like that one could be a bit scary. It would make a great fretless though.

I use a Behringer line mixer to handle the A/B/C/... duties. It's cheap and fits right in the rack.

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Posted 28 August 2005 - 03:10 PM

Is the fretboard on your Parker carbon?  How would you handle the defret?  It seems like that one could be a bit scary.  It would make a great fretless though.


My last one (a Nitefly) had a carbon neck/fretboard, but I sold it as part of my Escape From SF (post-tech-bubble-burst.) Reluctantly.

I now have a P38 which isn't carbon, but still well made and sounds great. And somehow almost as light as the Flys and Niteflys.

Body: ash, neck: maple (but with some sort of thin carbon fibre overlay I think, not just a hard lacquer), fretboard: rosewood. So it wouldn't be too hard to defret. As I will probably always use fretted for some things, in time I will get another carbon Parker for those chores and defret this one. Emre's comment about cheap guitars applies here...

Parker frets in general seem to be more solidly affixed into the fingerboard than most; one of the ways in which he improved the tone and sustain. I will find out with this one, certainly! And yes, I would be worried about chipping, etc. on a carbon defret. I just don't know enough about its properties vs. wood - i.e., can it be drilled/sawn/sanded the same way?
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Posted 28 August 2005 - 10:31 PM

Good job on the guitar, Rob.

Nice garden by the way <_<

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Can't say the same thing for frets though...

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Posted 29 August 2005 - 10:04 AM

Here is my fretless geetar

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Posted 29 August 2005 - 10:05 AM

Here is my fretless geetar

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Posted 29 August 2005 - 11:58 AM

After a five day rain delay on sanding, I'm finally defretted.  I filled the slots with black dyed maple purfling from stewmac.  The size is perfect.  There was some chipout on the board during the defret.  So, I overfilled the slots with epoxy too.  Then I used a little plane to cut down the excess purfling and epoxy to manageable levels.  Then I used one of the radiused sanding blocks from stewmac to do the sanding.  That made the job easy. 

I finished it off with special unfretted forum Almond/lemon/tea tree/Bergamot essential oil/aromatherapy mixture.  Smells nice. Works perfectly.


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Posted 29 August 2005 - 04:13 PM

My last one (a Nitefly) had a carbon neck/fretboard, but I sold it as part of my Escape From SF (post-tech-bubble-burst.) Reluctantly.


I had a similar burst bubble escape from Colorado. We sold off and gave away 3/4's of our stuff. Definitely sucks. But, the freedom gained was worth it.

I now have a P38 which isn't carbon, but still well made and sounds great. And somehow almost as light as the Flys and Niteflys.

Body: ash, neck: maple (but with some sort of thin carbon fibre overlay I think, not just a hard lacquer), fretboard: rosewood. So it wouldn't be too hard to defret. As I will probably always use fretted for some things, in time I will get another carbon Parker for those chores and defret this one. Emre's comment about cheap guitars applies here...

Parker frets in general seem to be more solidly affixed into the fingerboard than most; one of the ways in which he improved the tone and sustain. I will find out with this one, certainly! And yes, I would be worried about chipping, etc. on a carbon defret. I just don't know enough about its properties vs. wood - i.e., can it be drilled/sawn/sanded the same way?

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Yep, I've set aside one guitar who's frets are untouchable.

I love the Parkers. The first time I picked one up, it was a revelation.




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